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 Whiskey Hill Historic races in Palmer, MA 
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I've been studying this video of the track at Palmer & the notes provided by the videographer.

I have taken the liberty of saving the notes via screen shots for easier study. If this violates any sort of copyright let me know & I will remove the attachment. (Edit - I figured out how to send the video poster a message via YouTube. I have asked for permission to share my screen shots of his video.)


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Good catch. Was just about to sign up, I'm not sure I would meet the 96 db requirement. I have a db meter on my phone, but no real way to get the car to 7500 rpm to check. Does anyone know how/where they measure it?

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Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:25 pm
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Press1 wrote:
I'm not sure I would meet the 96 db requirement.

Does anyone know how/where they measure it?


Their web page indicates "50' from track edge".

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Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:40 pm
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Eric Russell wrote:
I've been studying this video of the track at Palmer & the notes provided by the videographer.


He also has a page with photos & additional notes here: Track Walk.

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Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:42 pm
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SCCA measured 30 ft. from edge of track when I worked sound, generally at the point of "most likely to be at wide open throttle". Most cars were fine, unless it was particularly humid/damp. Since Palmer is 50 feet, you're probably ok - Mike could confirm whether sound will be enforced or not. I don't know your 510 to be exceedingly loud Joe, but, my Mini would have a hard time keeping up for me to confirm ;)

As you get warnings before being asked to shut it down, you can usually just turn down the wick a bit and get under the limit. Also, if you're able to direct the exhaust towards the inside of the track/away from the sound meter (assuming there's not a giant rock wall to reflect the sound), that can also help mitigate sound levels.

Cheers,
Ian

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Thanks, Ian! I'm also going to look into getting some kind of glass pack muffler. Thought about directing the exhaust strait down or away with a tip i have for the car, too.

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Guys:

It is my understanding that the maximum dB level is 103 db measured 50 ft from the track so probably not an issue for most cars (except maybe Mazda rotaries). An inexpensive exhaust turn down http://www.autozone.com/exhaust/exhaust-tip/proelite-chrome-plated-exhaust-tip-bolt-on/794676_0_0/ that can be positioned away from sound control is probably all that is needed if you get called for sound.

Mike Lawton should be coming out with some FAQ's soon. Things are changing all the time as they continue work on the track.

Mack

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Thanks Mack, you have it correct. Palmer does check sound and we need to respect their limit. They have said that most cars have needed only a turndown or turnaway to pass - as in the elbow that Mack has described above.

Sorry to everyone, the FAQ are tardy and that's my fault here. I will try to get them out this weekend.

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FAQ are now up, preliminary schedule should be up today or tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.

Come, bring friends! You (and they) will love the track!

Mike


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Just registered. We'll see how it goes on the db meter... I'll bring an exhaust tip and maybe a glass-pack muffler.

See you there!

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